I came across a letter by Deirdre McCloskey on Lynn Conway’s site. Deirdre is a Professor of Economics, History, English, and Communication at University of Illinois at Chicago. She transitioned some years ago.
Her letter refers to a big controversy that took place in 2003-4 over Professor J. Michael Bailey’s book, The Man Who Would Be Queen: The Science of Gender-Bending and Transsexualism.
The book was published by the National Academies Press. Stephen Mautner being the executive editor at the time, who had some explaining to do.
Dierdre’s letter is an interesting sample of her writing abilities and I thought I would pass along a link to an overview of her book, ‘Economical Writing’.
Here’s a little snapshot of Dierdre’s letter to the editor, back when the controversy first exploded.
December 19, 2003: “Transsexual Travesty”
Letter to The Editor of The Chicago Reader by Deirdre McCloskey
“… practically no one in the scientific community believes the “science” in Professor Bailey’s Silly Theory (let me be as slanted as Rodkin is, OK?). At the July meeting in Bloomington, Indiana, of the International Academy of Sex Research, John Bancroft, director of the Kinsey Institute and one of the most respected sexologists in the world, stood up after Bailey’s abbreviated talk and said sternly, “Michael, I would caution you against calling this book ’science’ because I have read it, and I can tell you it is not science.” Then he sat down, to stunned silence. “
I picked up an affection for the name Dierdre years ago, watching Monty Python’s ‘The Meaning Of Life’. In the classic scene trashing the church, a mother is surrounded by literally dozens of children, doing the dishes with one of the older children at her side. She gives birth standing at the counter and simply says, “Would you get that for me Dierdre.” My hope is that we will have network media that lampoons all these absurdities thrust upon us by ignoramuses like J. Michael Bailey.
Perhaps what we really need is a National Lampoon style publication / multimedia base, with a transsexual slant. The public and the media tend to use humor to facillitate their own shortcomings and homophobic tendencies. It’s as old as corn. We all learned it in grade school, and so we all feel comfortable with jokes as a medium to recieve information on uncomfortable subjects – it’s the stock and trade of every comedian. Of course, it ceases to function in a postive way when the humor crosses the line into homophobic jingoism, which is really politicking against the transsexual movement. A large number of people already regard transsexuals as ‘a joke’. I hate to even write those words, but it is true. We can take that which is already set as a weapon against us, and turn it on those who use it in their calculated homophobic agenda.
I say, we take control of the humor front on our own subculture, and feed it to people in an intelligent way, a way that appeals to their ‘good senses’ instead of their dark side. That way we can take shots at all of our favorites and have a humorous way of imparting our message in the media. Here’s a good example of what I mean – check out Calpernia Addams in ” Bad Questions to Ask a Transsexual: The Director’s Cut “
I’m Canadian eh, and we have lots of experience laughing at ourselves. For example: in other countries when officials are caught with their hand in the till, heads roll. Here in Canada, it’ more of a belly roll. In fact, the odd Canadian will go to great lenghts to make a fool of themselves in order to raise the humor of all concerned.
Anyone got any ideas??



You make a good point sweetie, but I don’t really see how that’s possible – there are just too many negative stereotypes attached to “transsexual humour”, and unfortunately humour tends to rely heavily on stereotype.
Personally, I think having gender-variant people being visibly successful – people like Professor Lynn Conway or Kate Craig-Wood or Dr. Richard Curtis for example, force people to rethink that essential stereotype of trans-people as crazy deviants on the margins of society. We need more people out in the public eye achieving things, with the fact that they are trans a footnote that gets mentioned now and again because the journalist is half-heartedly trying to spice things up.
Of course, that said, with most of us living from hand to mouth, under-employed or unemployed, abandoned by friends and family, actually getting to that kind of success seems a distant dream … sigh.
LOL. Sorry sweetie, didn’t mean to come gloom and doom all over your post.
Mina.
I’d never consider you doom and gloom, and you’re certainly not ‘all over’ my post.
Unfortunately, you don’t see the possibilty for the benefits of humor, and that stereotypes can be easily transcended by transsexuals who are promoting normalcy through the stage and screen. I’d be glad to provide examples.
I think far too many people in the trans world feel that the only way to social acceptance is through intellectualism, and proof that transsexuals can secure high positions.
But that’s just my (non-intellectual) opinion.
By the way, I don’t enjoy being referred to as sweetie. I know it’s your habit with others as well, but I’d prefer you not to address me that way. Thanks. (no hard feelings, I hope)
The challenge of humor is to make jokes that people get. Now, it’s not hard to make lowest common denominator Canadian jokes — and I say that as a Canadian who tracks from Wayne & Schuster on — but lowest common denominator trans jokes are usually just cruel. “We are Canadians and we are in on the joke,” is one thing, but “they are trannys and are the joke” is another.
Jokes work because they tap into shared experience. The shared experience of finding gender differences odd covers almost all humans. “Did you ever notice women need 15 kinds of cream just to wash their face?” But the experience of being tranny in the world, well, we don’t even have shared language for that. “I just looked at my stent and said ‘only if you buy me dinner first!’”
I have found that the only way to handle walking as a transperson in this world is with humor, yes.
But I have also found that few others, even few other transpeople, get the joke.
My apologies Brielle, I’ll not use the word again.
Mina.
@Mina. I hope you check out Bethany Black. Honestly, I don’t know how a transsexual could argue that Bethany is not a good influence on our movement. In fact, to me, the intellectuals who hide behind webpages, and fly off to conferences to convene with other middle-class white intellectuals are really more of the problem that our movement faces as a whole. Bethany, and so many others like her, are like direct salespeople going door-to-door, face-to-face with the enemy. Any transsexual that dares to belittle them is simply lost in their own small, ineffectual world, stacking up false coins and ideological memes to inflate their ego and self-image.
@Callan
Thanks for filling me in about ‘the challenge of humor’ – who would have known?
I would hardly say that the Domery inquiry is a ‘lowest common denominator Canadian joke’ , unless you’re referring to the fact that I said ‘eh’, in which case it is not even a valid point.
If you are such an expert on humor, why are you indicating that transsexual humor is as simple as saying “We are trannys and we are the joke.” To me that is absurdly simplistic. The subtleties of humor are hardly that concrete, and if you have a bone to pick with the idea that humor can heal, perhaps you need to go back and stab Shakespeare in the bum with your pen.
I get your point, but honestly! Perhaps what you are referring to is the drunken exec in drag at the corporate fetish party getting up to tell jokes at the end of the night. I really hope you watch Bethany Black’s bit. I’m not trying to maker her the ‘poster girl’ for my argument, but really – do you have a leg to stand on?
Perhaps that you don’t ‘get the joke’, is precisely why we need more humor. It’s easy to criticize ideas, and other people who are trying; it’s the occupation for millions of people now, to sit at their computers and surf the world ‘making their mark’. I’m more interested in the possibilities and the effects of what is happening on the front lines. That’s my habitat, and that’s where I’ll draw my conclusions, thanks.
Slapdown!
Oooh I been hit!
Yeah, you are right, sweetie!
I give!
Brielle,
I’m sorry that you feel I was attacking the idea, perhaps I simply misunderstood your premise. I watched Bethany’s standup and I found it absolutely brilliant, but I didn’t hear her joke about being trans, though I did have trouble hearing parts of it so I might’ve missed it.
If your argument was that we as a group should be out there doing comedy and the like, I absolutely agree with you, I just felt, and please understand this is just my opinion, that actually joking about transsexuality, at this point anyway, is difficult.
Then again, I’ve always had trouble understanding humour in general, so again, I’m sorry if you felt I was attacking the idea rather than simply raising my own perspective on it.
Mina.
Mina: Thanks for explaining.
The trans community is so wary of trans entertainment, period. The mention of a transgender performer or stand-up conjures something like drag to be sure.
I am talking about crashing that stereotype with intelligent, provocative entertainment. Did you hear this one yet: “Hey, what did the bartender say when three trannies walked in the bar?”
See that’s the kind of stuff that people think is transsexual humor. I want transsexuals to just be human beings and present creative media to the general public without continually harping about trans politics.
I remember being in Montreal during some of the worst times of ‘language law’ changes with anglophone/francophone animosities flaring. They are just obsessed with each other, it seems that it will always be that way. I don’t want to be a part of that continuing division between trans and straight / gay / lesbian factions. I want to just promote the idea that we should be ourselves and be successful at that.
I think a lot of the trans world wants ‘revenge’ really, that is like: “Ok, you were bad to us, now we want our rights, we want you to say you’re sorry, and we want you to make it up to us.” Nonsense.
I say SUCCESS is the best form of revenge. If we just stand up and be authentic, loving and respectful towards each other in this society, the rest of the ‘groups’ will give us respect because we COMMAND it, period. (the current state of affairs on our internal relationships in the trans community is a big ‘tranny mess’. I want to divorce myself already, but there is no alternative but to try to effect change.)
A good act that shows humor and intelligence is a great way to open the doors between us. That’s my point.
funny haha
I was just thinking about my response on your humour post and your reply to it, and I think that we might have missed one another’s intent. I took your post that you meant we should be making jokes at our own expense rather than having other people do it, which I disagree with. After reading the subsequent responses and your follow-up blog post, I think I was in error.
My response was not meant to upset you, which it clearly did, and after thinking about your reply I understand why: I did not mean to imply that I was discrediting your post or the premise when I said I was doom and glooming all over your blog – I meant that I was literally feeling depressed that day, and I was trying to indicate in a humorous way that that might be colouring my opinion. I’m sorry that I didn’t make that clear. As I said in one of my responses, humour is at best a hit and miss thing with me.
Anyway, I am sorry for the misunderstanding.
Mina.
hello Brielle
I do so agree.. Like Chris Rock making jokes about black people, we can depict ourselves in the round instead of mainstream society’s demeaning stereotypes
we have a standup comedienne in UK, stage name Shelley Cooper, who plays a post-op (as she actually is) and she delights in plays straight venues. She loves hecklers as she is at her sharpest when responding to them..
once one drunken yob shouted “Your bits dont work and you cant have an orgasm!” she retorted: ” My bits are better than anything your ever going to see, and you’re right.. with you I WOULDN’T have an orgasm” The crowd roared and the heckler left with his tail between his legs.
PS I made a customised TinyURL for this page you might like to post it on my Yahoo messageboard (Yahoo breaks long URLs) :
http://tinyurl.com/translarf
XXX M
@Michal – Thanks for your support and opinion.
It’s odd, because I just got home from shopping and coincidentally I just now had this idea for a play: Two trannies move in together, one is a straight-laced introvert from Canada, the other is a boisterous-happy-go-lucky lady from Australia. The two are constantly clashing, at odds and making up. (sort of a Transsexual ‘Odd Couple’)
It seems difficult for trans folk to laugh at themselves, because they are still in the beginning stages of getting away from the ridicule. It’s like being a transsexual woman and deciding to dress like a man to be emancipated, not many would dare try or even pull that off, but then again – why not try it?
I think you’re entirely right. Using the GLB community as an example… Gay and lesbian people have been the butt of jokes from everyone else FOREVER. But now there is the Big Gay Sketch Show, intermittently available on Logo, and it tears into every stereotype there is. If there is a Gay, Lesbian, or Bi stereotype to be attacked, they do it. And while occasionally the results are just awful, usually they are spot on and hilarious. The “bear in the suburbs” newscast, the lesbian speed dating… They do trans person stuff sometimes, with less consistent results.
But who will be our hilarity? Most trans people, it seems, either want to vanish into their new & improved gender presentation or aren’t all that funny (me, for example…clever, but not a comedian). Perhaps there are brilliant stand-up comics amongst our sprawling tribe, waiting to appear out of the shadows, as the Cliks did when Cyndi Lauper got them to tour with her. Maybe Margaret Cho or Kathy Griffin or other queer-friendly comics could be encouraged to gently start working us into their routines, and at the same time, keep their eyes peeled for funny trans folk.
I’m glad you posted this. And glad as well that you spoke out against that faux “science.”
Best
Rafe
Thanks for the props Rafe, and the reminder about Big Gay Sketch Show. I am similarly un-endowed in the comedic ability department. I really love Big Gay type stuff, Liz Feldman etc. And I wonder too when a trans comic will burst on the scene. It’s only a matter of time, and s/he will be necessarily brilliant, because anything less won’t break through to the mainstream.